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Matthew Shugart

If Kip's question was directed at me (I'm not sure), I would refer him to my comment on this blog under the previous entry about Prop. 22 and its connection to "the will of the people."

I assume the legislators are aware of Prop. 22 and were prepared to argue that there was no conflict. How I have no idea. But once the governor vetoes it, the point will be moot.

KipEsquire

How do you respond to the response that each and every member of the California Legislature was elected, in some cases re-elected, after Prop. 22? That too was "the will of the people."

As Obi-Wan might say, "Who's the more foolish -- the fool or the fool who elected him?"

Matthew Shugart

On same-sex marriage, the recent Washington Post poll shows 46% of Californians support it, and an equal number opposed. So it is hard to call either the legislature or the governor "out of touch" on this issue. There is no consensus either way.

Regarding the drivers licence issue, I am too lazy to look it up now, but I know there was an LA Times article that said Schwarzenegger and legislative leaders had an agreement to bring up a new measure with "safeguards." This would have been not long after the drivers licence measure passed under Davis was repealed after the recall election.

I know nothing of the provisions the governor said he would accept as safeguards, nor whether they were in these more recent bills. But there was apparently an agreement to find a consensus.

I would not take the public opinion on this as necessarily well grounded, either. I did not follow the link to the Field Poll reported above because it requires registration, but all the post says is that it reports that 75% of Californians are concerned about illegal immigration. So? Does the poll ask specifically about the drivers licence issue?

Let's just assume for the sake of argument that a majority would indeed say they are opposed to this bill passed by the legislature. If you ask people if "illegal immigrants" should have a state-provided "licence" I think it is predictable what response you would get. But suppose the question is framed differently—for example, which is better: People driving with fake licences (or none at all) or people having a means to drive legally, whatever their immigration status. The results might diverge substantially.

Finally, as long as the space devoted to comments appears to be infinite (!), I might note that there is an awful lot of duplicity here within the public. How many of those 75% who are "concerened" about immigration check out the immigration status of people who DRIVE to their homes regularly to clean the house, cut the grass, and do other tasks?

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